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Bit of a shame

AviationPosted by Peter Smith Wed, January 03, 2018 18:06:39

The P-40 discovered in the Sahara over 5 years ago after being untouched for 70 years has now gone on display at the El Alamein museum after being 'restored'. The end result has not been well received. Originally the aircraft was slated to be returned to the UK for display at Hendon but Egyptian authorities elected to keep it. At least the aircraft is preserved although inside would have been good.



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Posted by Marcus Wed, January 10, 2018 15:41:06

Thanks for this Peter. I wondered about this AC. Fascinating story from find till now. I too had not read anything on the pilot. It would indeed be nice for the family to know.

Posted by G Thu, January 04, 2018 20:46:48

From what I understand is that the sticking point was who's property it belongs too ? with regard to where it was found. At the end of the day it was found on their land as was the oil minerals found in the survey being conducted at the time of the aircraft being located. I think the metal repairs are fine considering the damage seen in the first photographs which came from the crash-site. I had not read anything regard the pilot Flt Sgt Dennis Copping being found which is why I asked. I did wonder if I'd missed something there. Hope they do find his remains because then one more will no longer be posted as 'missing'. All things considered I think they were right to keep the aircraft because the RAF Museum at Hendon is in turmoil from what I can see. The RAFM Hendon Halifax is a disgrace and not only to the lads who flew in them, but to the men and women who built them. The RCAF Trenton example and the other one being restored show how it should be done. Hats off to the YAM 'Friday the 13th' example too. At least their heart was in it. But considering also the Goodwin Sands saga it was clear ET574 was going the same way (nowhere fast ).

Posted by Peter Thu, January 04, 2018 17:53:09

If the Halifax was their inspiration I have some sympathy as she looks pretty sorry for herself sitting on the floor in the gloom with a pristine turret and pristine aircraft all around. I'm not big on 'as found' when a resto is clearly possible. When you look at what Elvington and Trenton achieved I think Hendon missed a trick there. I know it's money but it doesn't do Bomber Command justice imho.

And you are probably right, that Hampden isn't coming on in a hurry and how long has the Wellington been gone for and that was complete when it went to the workshop.

Don't know about the pilot, I would hope so as he wasn't even found when the a/c was discovered was he.


Posted by G Thu, January 04, 2018 11:52:53

And look, no roadcones and so easy to place some 'weeds' in the forground and hide the stone plinth thinghy. Abrasion by sand/dust will soon give it the weathered look,oh and an amount of UV should help things along nicely. Some folks eh ?

Posted by G Thu, January 04, 2018 08:21:42

I heard here and there that the Egyptions had looked online at the Hendon Halifax and were not impressed at how it was displayed and elected to do better and they also noted Hendon already has a middle east cloured P-40 . Fair play to them for getting on with it, because if the conservation centre had got hold of it, christ knows when the public would have seen it. I think they have well with herand should be given an award by the BAPC for preserving a piece of US property lent to us under 'lend-lease' . Is the pilot mentioned on the wall of the missing at Runnymead Peter ? Just asking.